I actually ended up using your "LeftBlueNav" from the Snapsis meue distribution. I took a 2 column version of my skin got rid of the silver tap hover menu in the header and placed the menu from the "LeftBlueNav" in the left pane. I re-styled it in FireFox and tweaked the widths etc in Ie and all looked well. However, when I log out all of the content from the menu disapears! It isn't placed off of the screen - it isn't in the html file at all. This applies to both IE and Firefox. I didn't realize that DNN gave us the options of visibility on a per-pane basis and I don't want it. I have checked all of the settings and they look right. I assume this is some stupid typo but I have looked a lot of places. All of the elements are visable as long as you are logged in as page editor. If you are logged in as a non-priv user or are logged out you can't see them. Got any ideas? /Dave |