eureka
Posts:91
| | 02/13/2007 8:34 AM |
| Hi John
I have just downloaded the Free snapsis pageblaster 2.1.2 to try.
Do I need to remove the DNN compression and the friendly url module prior to installation or does PageBlaster run alongside and enhance these features or conflict?
Thanks
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John Mitchell
Posts:3033
| | 02/13/2007 9:14 AM |
| Hi Lynn,
With PageBlaster you need to remove the core compression module because PageBlaster does it's own compression and more.
Just put the PageBlaster declaration in it's place in the web.config.
Keep the UrlRewrite module like it is. | | | |
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eureka
Posts:91
| | 02/18/2007 12:33 PM |
| Hi John
I have installed Pageblaster to my DNN 4.4.1
But I am not unable to create a new page or make page changes. What have I done wrong? This is what I have done:
I have removed compression:
PERFORMANCE SETTINGS:
Page state persistance: page
Module Caching Method: Disk
Permance Setting: No Caching
Authenticated Cacheability: No Cache
Compression Setting: No Compression
Compression Level (Deflate): None
Use Whitespace Filter: disabled
I installed Pageblaster by:
FTP the following files to the site bin:
SharpZipLib.dll
Snapsis.HttpModules.PageBlaster.dll
Snapsis.ReplacementEngine.dll
FTP to site root:
Snapsis.PageBlaster config
However, I found that by adding this line to my web.config ( ) caused a server error and the site was unavailable. So I have since removed the above line and the site was restored.
Please advise.
Thanks
Lynn
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John Mitchell
Posts:3033
| | 02/18/2007 12:47 PM |
| Hi Lynn,
You may have run into a problem I had for a short time with the free version looking for a folder path that wasn't there.
Please download again and FTP the Snapsis.PageBlaster.dll from the newly downloaded package to your /bin folder.
After that you should be able to put the required line in your web.config HttpModules section.
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eureka
Posts:91
| | 02/18/2007 4:01 PM |
| Hi John
Thanks for your reply and advice, I downloaded a new Pageblaster and FTP'd to my site with the required HttpModule section inserted in my web.config file and this time it worked. Thanks.
But the site is so slow.
Also, I am not able to create a new page or edit a page.
In IE6 on the bottom bar I see: Yellow ! triangle "Error on page"
In FF on the bottom bar: Javascript:WebForm_DoPostBackWithOptons(new WebForm_DoPostBackWithOpton("dnn:ctr:ManageTabs:cmdupdate", "",true,"","",false,true))
As above this is my host compression settings:
PERFORMANCE SETTINGS:
Page state persistance: page
Module Caching Method: Disk
Permance Setting: No Caching
Authenticated Cacheability: No Cache
Compression Setting: No Compression
Compression Level (Deflate): None
Use Whitespace Filter: disabled
Excluded Mime Types:
image/gif
image/jpeg
Excluded Paths:
install/install.aspx
linkclick.aspx
What do I need to do to speed up the site and enable page editing and enable PageBlaster to work correctly as intended?
Thanks
Lynn
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John Mitchell
Posts:3033
| | 02/18/2007 5:29 PM |
| Hi Lynn,
Do you have the Snapsis.PageBlaster.config file in the root of your site?
And are you using the excludedPaths that were in that file?
If you have removed the core compression module from your web.config and added PageBlaster, you don't need to worry about the settings on the Host > Host Settings page, they will be disabled. | | | |
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eureka
Posts:91
| | 02/19/2007 4:26 AM |
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Hi John
Thanks for the reply.
Do you have the Snapsis.PageBlaster.config file in the root of your site?
Yes I had already FTP'd Snapsis.PageBlaster.config file to the root, I removed the compression in the site host settings, but it was like walking through treacle trying to navigate pages, even though I had installed PageBlaster.
If you have removed the core compression module from your web.config and added PageBlaster, you don't need to worry about the settings on the Host > Host Settings page, they will be disabled.
As suggested, I commented out the core compression in my web.config file and that worked. Now my site is much faster, thanks, Snapsis.PageBlaster is working well, (I can only presume that the core was conflicting).
But I have not yet solved the postback problem.
And are you using the excludedPaths that were in that file?
I am not sure what I need to do with them.
I have taken the following files from your Snapsis.PageBlaster.config:
ctl=edit
\?(?!tabid)
rss
\.asxh
And added them to Excluded Paths
(Excluded Paths:)
install/install.aspx
linkclick.aspx
ctl=edit
\?(?!tabid)
rss
\.asxh
But that had not solved the Javascript Postback problem.
To my current Excluded Mime Files I have recently added webresource.axd + ebresource.axd
In the hope that it will solve the Postback problem, but it has not.
(Excluded Mime Types: )
image/gif
image/jpeg
webresource.axd
ebresource.axd
Please advise.
Regards
Lynn
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John Mitchell
Posts:3033
| | 02/19/2007 7:55 AM |
| Hi Lynn,
It sounds like you are almost there. The Snapsis.PageBlaster.config file is where all settings will be adjusted when using PageBlaster.
The settings on the Host Settings page no longer have any effect when using PageBlaster.
PageBlaster has an exclude rule that normally makes sure that you don't get problems with Post-Back, but you may have a residual file in your local browser cache.
If you clear the temporary files from your local browser cache you should see this problem go away.
You can clear your complete temporary files, or you can navigate to the page that is having trouble and in Internet Explorer hold CTRL while refreshing, or in FireFox hold SHIFT while refreshing.
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eureka
Posts:91
| | 02/19/2007 2:44 PM |
| Hi John
Thanks for the reply and info.
Yes I am almost there. But I seem to have taken 2 steps back.
I have cleared temporary files.
Went onto my site using IE6 and tried to create a new page.
Good news: The Yellow ! triangle "Error on page" on bottom Task bar has now gone.
Bad News: The site has now become very very slow: Upon "update" the progress bar appeared which indicated that the Postback error has gone, but after 5 minutes the progress bar has only travelled a quarter of the way and then seemed to stop, I got fed up waiting.
** It took several mins. to open a module to edit and approx 5 mins to update edit.
Navigating to pages takes from 1 to 5 mins for page to load, even on pages without content or images.
I cleared IE temp. files. This did not help
I then tried using FF and it appeared that the site was even slower.
I was unable to create a new page, upon "Update" when adding a new page, nothing happened.
I cleared FF temp. files, but this did not help.
I reinstalled Snapsis.Pageblaster to my site root and bin folder and tried again, but this did not help.
What am I doing wrong?
Do I need to add something to Snapsis.Pageblaster.config file?
I understand that as I have disabled DNN at config file (add name="Compression" type="DotNetNuke.HttpModules.Compression.HttpModule, DotNetNuke.HttpModules.Compression) that any host/site compression settings will be disabled and Snapsis.Pageblaster takes over the compression.
My site is pure CSS and I have seperated the admin section from the default.css file (as per your blog). I have made all css files as small as poss. by css shorthand.
I have "host-tracker" pointed to the site.
Do I need to do something else, I am at a loss?
Thanks.
Lynn
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John Mitchell
Posts:3033
| | 02/19/2007 2:51 PM |
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I feel for you. It should never be that slow.
Maybe I can take a closer look and figure out what is going on.
Contact me on MSN Messenger if you want or e-mail me directly.
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Mariette Knap
Posts:102
| | 02/19/2007 3:39 PM |
| Did you update or change your web.config from within IIS? From the ASP.Net tab? If that is the case I would create a new web.config. Copy release.config to web.config and make sure you copy the machine key before you browse to your site. I had those webpost back errors once shortly after I changed the web.config from within IIS... You never know... | |
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eureka
Posts:91
| | 02/20/2007 5:38 AM |
| Hello Mariette
Thanks for the suggestion, I am not sure what you mean by "changing web.config from within IIS? From the ASP.Net tab"
But this is what I did.
I upgraded 2 sites to DNN 4.4.1 at the same time.
Site #1, upgraded from 4.4.0. (I used the release.config from the DNN 4.4.1 install and transfered the settings from my oldweb.config file) I had a postback problem using DNN core compression, I changed to Snapsis.Pageblaster because I understood that the postback problem is not a problem with Snapsis.Pageblaster, also I wanted to utilise the xhtml complient features.
Site #2 upgraded from 4.3.1. (I used the release.config from the DNN 4.4.1 install and transfered the settings from my web.config file) I added Snapsis.Pageblaster to this site and I do not have any problem, it is fast and I can create new pages etc.,
You never know .... So I took the working web.config file from the fully working Site #2 and pasted the database connection settings, machine settings, date from problem Site #1 and uploaded the new web.config file, (just in case). Keeping my fingers crossed I tried to access problem Site #1 hoping it might be cured. I held my breath in anticipation waiting for the site to show, but I had turned blue by the time I eventually got it. It did not work.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Lynn
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John Mitchell
Posts:3033
| | 02/20/2007 7:01 AM |
| Hi Lynn,
That Site#1 sounds like it is having some other non-related problem that needs to be corrected.
I'd be happy to take a closer look if you like. | | | |
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eureka
Posts:91
| | 02/20/2007 9:40 PM |
| Hi John
Thanks for all your help.
I FTP'd the Snapsis.Pageblaster that you edited for me. But I am sorry to say that did not work either.
The next step as suggested was to remove the URL.Rewriter module and just use the core url rewriter instead. I was hoping that I would not have to do this as I have customised friendly hyperlinks on most pages and I would need to change them all manually if I reverted back to the DNN friendly url's ( DNN friendly url is not exactly as third party url rewrite module).
I decided that I would try something else first.
I removed my friendly url module and replaced it with a similar module from another source. I was pleased to see that the url's looked exacty as before.
I then installed Snapsis.PageBlaster (none edited version) You never know.
I could not believe it, it worked. My pages are faster (no more treading through treacle ) and the added bonus is that I no longer have that dreadful postback problem. I can now create/edit pages using IE6 and FF.
Snapsis.PageBlaster was working all along doing it's job, I was unaware that the URL re-write module was causing the conflicting problems.
Thanks John for all your help and support and also for suggesting "removal of url re-write" that would never have occured to me and I would have been searching for a solution for a very long time.
Many Thanks
Lynn | |
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John Mitchell
Posts:3033
| | 02/20/2007 11:27 PM |
| Excellent. I'm glad you were able to get it working.
Thanks for getting back to let us know how you resolved it too, this may help someone else. | | | |
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Nelson Fernandez
Posts:50
| | 04/19/2007 7:42 PM |
| Posted By lynngrin on 02/20/2007 9:40 PM
I removed my friendly url module and replaced it with a similar module from another source. I was pleased to see that the url's looked exacty as before.
Which friendly URL module did you end up using? | | | |
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eureka
Posts:91
| | 04/20/2007 3:53 AM |
| Hi John
I have found that the "User Friendly URL" from Ventrian systems: http://www.ventrian.com/ works very well and so far without problems, plus it is so easy to get up and running. However, the URL address bar in the child sites remains ugly and unfriendly. I understand he is working on getting the friendly URL's, to work on child sites, but as far as I know, this is not yet available, pity.
Thanks
Lynn | |
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