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DavidWSnow
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01/31/2008 11:24 AM  

I just installed and configured Ventrain's News Articles as the blog module for my site. Like DNN's blog it really needs a two column page.

When I set it up the 3 modules on the right (catagories, authors, archive) stayed on the right side at the top.  After a while the right column drop to a level where top of the right column was at the level of the bottom of the left column.   After a lot of screwing around, I but in a PB exclusion of .* for ALL. and delted the cache. All was well. BTW I have no portal-wide rules and no page rules for this page.

The page looked good for hours, but this morning I had the same problem. I rechecked the Exclusion, deleted the cache and again "all was well" 

Got any ideas other than checking before I delete the cache if there is a directory for the tabid?

/DaveS

John Mitchell
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01/31/2008 11:41 AM  

Hi Dave,

It looks like you are having a problem with the CSS Layout on that page.  
When I hold CTRL and refresh I see that column in the correct place for an instant, but then it falls back down to the bottom right away.

This is one of the reasons that I use a single html table in my CSS Layouts.

DavidWSnow
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01/31/2008 5:32 PM  

What you saw was an artifact I my adjusting the column widths and forgetting to fix them in my 1pane-iehacks.css module.  I have fixed that, and yes you do get a flash in IE because the ie-hacks file is loaded by javascript in the aspx code after the page is loaded.

What I was complaining about hasn't come back yet, is visible in FF which I uses all of the time. When it comes back, it will be perminate until I flush the PB cache.

I WILL look for the tabid (952) and see what is there.  But thank for pointing out the IE bug as well.

/Dave

DavidWSnow
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01/31/2008 5:36 PM  
What are the #$%^&*().pb.webinfo at the top level of the cache directory. I can believe that the ones in the tabid directory match pages. However the ones at the top are a mystery. Sometimes a have them and sometimes I don't.

/Dave
John Mitchell
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01/31/2008 5:51 PM  
The ones in the root of the cache folder are the ones without a Tabid i.e. when your main Url is cached for www.yourdomain.com

The filenames don't have those characters do they? They filenames should look like the other ones.

DavidWSnow
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01/31/2008 6:16 PM  
Yea the files names are the same. I have 12 files, which seems like a lot for www..., non-www... for IE and FF.
When you get the 301 redirect in PB could it redirect the non-www... to www...?
John Mitchell
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01/31/2008 8:23 PM  

You may be getting requests from other browsers, and also web crawlers.

Yes, version 3.0 has the ability to 301 redirect non-www to www

http://www.snapsis.com/PageBlaster-Support/tabid/601/forumid/9/postid/7958/view/topic/301-Redirect-feature-for-PageBlaster.aspx

Send me an e-mail if you want to try out the beta.

DavidWSnow
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02/01/2008 10:25 AM  

You said that you put one table in your css skins. Where do you put it? and why does it help?

/Dave

John Mitchell
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02/01/2008 11:49 AM  
I use it as a wrapper just inside the body so that it can define the columns and set height and width (basically anywhere that will be a skin pane in DNN). It helps because browsers are much more consistent about how they layout a table vs. using CSS.

DavidWSnow
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02/01/2008 12:12 PM  
Doesn't that complicate variable width skin designs? Doesn't that make it harder to style the layout in css? How do you deal with the fact that IE interprets column width differently than FireFox? I use a common skin.css, have a {1 2 3}pane.css that adjusts the only the items needing change for this sub layout. I style the skin completely in Firefox. I have a {1 2 3}pane-iehacks.css that is loaded by a piece of JavaScript and tweak those elements that aren't right in IE.

I do wrap the entire design in a div id="wrap" that holds it together much like your table will do.
/DaveS
John Mitchell
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02/01/2008 12:36 PM  
The skin on this site is fluid (variable width) and I find it easier to do across browsers by setting the width of the table to 100%. It also allows me to keep a minimum width. I don't have to use any IE specific CSS hacks for the layout.
I don't like using divs with float to make the columns because then it is more fluid since columns are allowed to wrap.

The other advantage is being able to set a minimum height so that even in a page that has little content the footer stays at the bottom of the window.
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